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Poster: CapnFlea Date: Feb 25, 2005 1:03pm
Forum: prelinger Subject: Prelinger and archive.org deepsixed televisionarchive.org

Well it's pretty clear archive.org and Prelinger obtained the immense collection of 9/11 footage in order to bury it. See the below discussion of many months ago in which these suspicions were broached:

http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=11408

With the passage of all this time it's now clear: Prelinger or whatever other kneejerk leftist entity now controlling the 9/11 archive is keeping it well out of sight (and site) purely for political reasons. It just won't do to have moment-by-moment coverage of that day available. It might remind people of the fact that some evil originates somewhere outside of Wash. DC.

Who's up for a campaign (with lawyers if needed) to wrestle this tremendous resource away from these neo-Stalinists?

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CapnFlea

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Staffsimon c Date: Feb 25, 2005 2:08pm
Forum: prelinger Subject: Re: Prelinger and archive.org deepsixed televisionarchive.org

I'll simply note that this is tremendously misguided. I don't know of the technical issues behind televisionarchive.org firsthand, but the Archive and Rick Prelinger (who is extremely unrelated to this!) are very much dedicated to spreading free knowledge. There is no conspiracy.

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Poster: CapnFlea Date: Feb 25, 2005 2:35pm
Forum: prelinger Subject: Re: Prelinger and archive.org deepsixed televisionarchive.org

Naw, Prelinger and Kahle control all vids throughout archive.org. What we have here is a fully deliberated supression of information and media by people who style themselves champions of the free and open exchange of the same. The painstakingly collected material of the former televisionarchive.org is a victim of zealotry no less disturbing than the zealotry of the Right.

This post was modified by CapnFlea on 2005-02-25 22:35:22

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Poster: Visual16 Date: Feb 25, 2005 8:41pm
Forum: prelinger Subject: Re: Prelinger and archive.org deepsixed televisionarchive.org


Archive.org attempted to present Farenheit 911 at the consent of Michael Moore but had to withdraw it from threats of lawsuit by the movie company (missed it by that much!)

I don't know control is the word, how about presents? Go ahead search the entire Web. Even the well financed Library of Congress only has "Voice of the Violin" and a few other films to download.

This is the one and only.

This is the reason to have broadband, I'm surprised they don't get more subsidy from ISP's because it makes their product so viable.

Why are the networks suppressing and not making 911 footage available to the public? Why should it be the responsibility of this site? What about the spirit of the Internet? Public domain should be mirrored all over the place. Where are these mirrors?

Look at the number of downloads the tsunami got.
I don't see the conspiracy here.

I thought liberals were supposed to get paranoid!

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Poster: Steve Nordby Date: Feb 25, 2005 8:59pm
Forum: prelinger Subject: Re: Prelinger and archive.org deepsixed televisionarchive.org

Oh to be an evil genius who wields such power! Bwahahaha!

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Poster: Mike Muir Date: Feb 26, 2005 5:39am
Forum: prelinger Subject: Re: Prelinger and archive.org deepsixed televisionarchive.org

Found much of this former video footage at a different site. www.thunderbay.indymedia.org Their menus are difficult to navigate, yet they contain tons of the former footage that was either taken down or not allowed on this site.

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Poster: JDG5 Date: Feb 26, 2005 1:14pm
Forum: prelinger Subject: Re: Prelinger and archive.org deepsixed televisionarchive.org

You're not kidding about the indymedia interface. Any chance you could give a full url to the 9/11 broadcasts here?

jdg

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Poster: Mike Muir Date: Feb 25, 2005 1:57pm
Forum: prelinger Subject: Re: Prelinger and archive.org deepsixed televisionarchive.org

Strangely enough, the same thing happened to several ani-bush films that were on this site.

This post was modified by Mike Muir on 2005-02-25 21:57:13

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Poster: cry0fan Date: Jun 6, 2005 4:28am
Forum: prelinger Subject: Re: Prelinger and archive.org deepsixed televisionarchive.org

Mike Muir

re: Prelinger and archive.org deepsixed televisionarchive.org


Strangely enough, the same thing happened to several ani-bush films that were on this site.


really?

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Staffbrewster Date: Feb 26, 2005 10:03am
Forum: prelinger Subject: televisionarchive.org material: volunteers needed

I am one of the members of the board of directors of the Television Archive, so let me address this issue.

Alas, there is nothing devious in our actions, our actions come from being underfunded for access. Something we hoped to have changed, but it has not come through yet.

A few details-- The Television Archive funded the building of a website presented on October 11, 2001 of TV news boardcasts from around the world from Sept 11 - Sept 18th 2001. The idea was to show some of the reactions from around the world. These programs were available for about 2 years, if I recall.

The website used technology from a company that was contacted to do the work and then when the website was separated from that company's hosting it all came crumbling down (lesson-- open source technology would have helped a great deal).

The Internet Archive would like to help with TVarchive with this project and has spent the last year getting out from underneath using a database and should now be ready to help.

If there are volunteers that would like to help the Internet Archive and Television Archive on this, please let us know. Skills needed:
* web design
* xslt programming (actually real programming, we do alot with it)
* linux adminy stuff.

Ideally, folks with 20 hours/week to spare for a month or so would do the trick.

Anybody up for it?

-brewster

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Poster: JDG5 Date: Feb 26, 2005 12:49pm
Forum: prelinger Subject: Re: televisionarchive.org material: volunteers needed

Hi brewster. I was a big fan of televisionarchive and have the skills you mention. I'm interested in this but there are some issues we would need to discuss via email. Please contact me:

jimg5<$AT$>optonline.net

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Poster: Abdoulah Date: Mar 3, 2005 12:44am
Forum: prelinger Subject: Re: televisionarchive.org material: volunteers needed

I'm glad to hear that the Television archive of 9/11 is comming back online! I've waited so long... I'm wondering if there is anything else I can do, I don't have those skills you are looking for..
Also: when can we expect the archive to be back online, with the broadcast from all over the world?

Thank you!

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Poster: Vatican Date: Mar 24, 2005 8:42am
Forum: prelinger Subject: Re: televisionarchive.org material: volunteers needed

Any movement on this front?

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Poster: Abdoulah Date: Jun 6, 2005 3:06am
Forum: prelinger Subject: Re: televisionarchive.org material: volunteers needed

Is there any work in progress? We are all waiting... and looking forward to it!

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Poster: TheNickShow Date: Feb 16, 2006 1:04pm
Forum: prelinger Subject: Re: televisionarchive.org material: volunteers needed

Almost a year out and still no update? Surely there had to be some takers on getting this back online!

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Poster: maurus Date: Mar 25, 2006 6:53pm
Forum: prelinger Subject: Re: televisionarchive.org material: volunteers needed

I really would like to help, but i donĀ“t have the skills mentioned.
Perhaps a funding campaign could help?
*BUMP*